Comments on: Conservative View http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:57:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: ThayerJ http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-105 ThayerJ Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:55:01 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-105 Well said BTianen. I agree with you 100%. Well said BTianen. I agree with you 100%.

]]> By: BTianen http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-98 BTianen Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:14:05 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-98 This artical makes explicit is/ought value judgments on other cultures which it has no place to even understand. America's supposed journey to freedom in Iraq is the result of a neurotic psychological need to be morally superior to foreign nations, in other words when a country (America) assumes binary moral conceptions like good and evil it searches for evil things to prove its own goodness to (namely Iraq). Why should we be worried about what happens in the middle east when America is a wasteland of consumerist culture and neurotic morally bloated citizens? Its the same neo-colonialist attitude which got is into Vietnam and only serves as a distraction to any real internal psychological problems of the nation. This artical makes explicit is/ought value judgments on other cultures which it has no place to even understand. America’s supposed journey to freedom in Iraq is the result of a neurotic psychological need to be morally superior to foreign nations, in other words when a country (America) assumes binary moral conceptions like good and evil it searches for evil things to prove its own goodness to (namely Iraq). Why should we be worried about what happens in the middle east when America is a wasteland of consumerist culture and neurotic morally bloated citizens? Its the same neo-colonialist attitude which got is into Vietnam and only serves as a distraction to any real internal psychological problems of the nation.

]]> By: ThayerJ http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-60 ThayerJ Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:00:23 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-60 Teddy, I don't understand your comment. Could you elaborate on it? Teddy, I don’t understand your comment. Could you elaborate on it?

]]> By: Teddy http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Teddy Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:38:37 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-59 Saddam himself though he had weapons of mass destruction, as did about 75% of the Legislative branch. Just sayin... Saddam himself though he had weapons of mass destruction, as did about 75% of the Legislative branch. Just sayin…

]]> By: ThayerJ http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-8 ThayerJ Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:58:52 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-8 Iraq let U.N. weapons inspectors in, with no conditions, and allowed them to inspect anything. You might find this article interesting Dferrari - http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml Iraq let U.N. weapons inspectors in, with no conditions, and allowed them to inspect anything.

You might find this article interesting Dferrari -

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml

]]> By: Dferrari http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Dferrari Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:10:40 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-7 Saddan intentionally restricted access of the U.N weapons inspectors. That alone was enough to raise suspicion. When a totalitarian leader refuses to submit to a search, shouldn't some red flags pop up? Saddan intentionally restricted access of the U.N weapons inspectors. That alone was enough to raise suspicion. When a totalitarian leader refuses to submit to a search, shouldn’t some red flags pop up?

]]> By: ThayerJ http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-6 ThayerJ Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:53:35 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-6 Stating that the view of Saddam as a threat to the U.S. was created through mass propaganda was redundant. The mix of 9/11 fear and lies about WMDs was the propaganda, and it worked! Stating that the view of Saddam as a threat to the U.S. was created through mass propaganda was redundant. The mix of 9/11 fear and lies about WMDs was the propaganda, and it worked!

]]> By: Tbrouwer http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Tbrouwer Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:50:20 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-5 I think you have some good points there. How do we decide which countries we need to help and which genocides we leave unhindered? This is becomes the true issue because although there is justification for interferance in all these events, money, lives, and stability are often deciding factors. Surely the mass killings of hundreds of thousands of African people can not be seen as less important than a few thousand middle-eastern people. I think the line was drawn in Iraq for a few other reasons, a large part of which was the hope to begin stabilizing the region surrounding Iraq (Operations in Iran come to mind). You are correct that much of the instability of the region is due to US influence in the late 80's-early 90's when our country was so focused in aiding the middle-east in driving back the Soviets. This is something we are paying the price for now, but it doesn't mean it can be ignored. As for the propaganda, this is something that is often reffered to in many liberal news articles, but I have yet so see any myself. Thank you for the thoughts though, I appreciate you handling your rebuttle in a mature mannor, and I always appreciate a healthy disagreemnt. I think you have some good points there. How do we decide which countries we need to help and which genocides we leave unhindered?

This is becomes the true issue because although there is justification for interferance in all these events, money, lives, and stability are often deciding factors.
Surely the mass killings of hundreds of thousands of African people can not be seen as less important than a few thousand middle-eastern people.
I think the line was drawn in Iraq for a few other reasons, a large part of which was the hope to begin stabilizing the region surrounding Iraq (Operations in Iran come to mind).
You are correct that much of the instability of the region is due to US influence in the late 80’s-early 90’s when our country was so focused in aiding the middle-east in driving back the Soviets. This is something we are paying the price for now, but it doesn’t mean it can be ignored.

As for the propaganda, this is something that is often reffered to in many liberal news articles, but I have yet so see any myself.

Thank you for the thoughts though, I appreciate you handling your rebuttle in a mature mannor, and I always appreciate a healthy disagreemnt.

]]> By: HeWhoRemembers http://www.wolfpackpress.org/viewpoints/conservative-veiw/comment-page-1/#comment-3 HeWhoRemembers Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:39:21 +0000 http://www.wolfpackpress.org/?p=45#comment-3 Interesting, you do know that Saddam was a product of our foreign policies in the 1980s... right? You know... when we decided to fool around in the middle east, and encourage Saddam to invade Iran. In fact, we gave him the wonderful nerve agents and biological weapons that he used to kill the Kurds, along with everything else he needed to wage war with Iran. Of course we couldn't hold an isolationist foreign policy during WWII, but the fact is that if we would have not fooled around in the middle east in the 1980s we would not be in the mess that we are in today. After the Gulf War Saddam never posed a threat to the U.S.A. The idea that Saddam was a threat was created through a mix of 9/11 fear, lies of WMDs, and mass amounts of propaganda. If the reason for going into Iraq was really to help the Iraqi people, and to halt a potential "Shoah", why have we not gone into countries like Darfur, and Rwanda to end the genocides there? Interesting, you do know that Saddam was a product of our foreign policies in the 1980s… right? You know… when we decided to fool around in the middle east, and encourage Saddam to invade Iran. In fact, we gave him the wonderful nerve agents and biological weapons that he used to kill the Kurds, along with everything else he needed to wage war with Iran. Of course we couldn’t hold an isolationist foreign policy during WWII, but the fact is that if we would have not fooled around in the middle east in the 1980s we would not be in the mess that we are in today.
After the Gulf War Saddam never posed a threat to the U.S.A. The idea that Saddam was a threat was created through a mix of 9/11 fear, lies of WMDs, and mass amounts of propaganda.

If the reason for going into Iraq was really to help the Iraqi people, and to halt a potential “Shoah”, why have we not gone into countries like Darfur, and Rwanda to end the genocides there?

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